Re: An Elithian Alliance game

[thunderpants]

how about music? do we keep the original or do we create our own?

Either or.

We could do both with some original and some custom. Anyone else here capable of making chiptunes?

So should we do it with elithian creatures?

In which case we need a Pokedex/list of pokemon!

Should I start us off?

Notix-Omega (Ice) (Younger version of)
Notix-Prime (Ice)
Notix-Avai (Ice/Flying)
Notix-Gant (Ice/Fighting)
Notix-Crani (Ice/Pyschic)

Alpha-Notix (Ice) [Small Tadpole like creatures]
Horpe-Notix (Ice/Normal)
Diftog-Notix (Ice/Ground)
Sonda-Notix (Ice/Flying)
Phrog-Notix (Ice/Water)

(We can probably drop the -Notix / -Notix (Or change to -N/N-))

Antellion (Ice/Normal) (Pics have gone!)
Snufable (Ice/Normal)
Kaeb-Bird (Ice/Flying)

Trink (Steel/Electricity) (Eyes are #ff0088)
Eco-Trink (Steel/Grass)
Eco-Trink2 (Steel/Grass)
Mega-Trink (Steel/Electricity) (Eyes are #ff0088)
Trink2 (Steel/Electricty) (Eyes are #ff0088)

Aegi (Grass/Fighting)
I don't know them well enough to put more than this.

Dremeton (Water)
Drometodont (Water/Flying)

Hymid (Water)
Again I'm no expert...

Baby Farythian (Dragon)
Faryth (Dragon)
Farythian (Dragon)
Gravoron (Fire/Dragon)
Rygantor (Ground/Dragon)
Bahamur (Ground/Dragon)
Strooboo
Roarbirds (Flying) (Pidgey equiv?)
Trangii
Borbon (Normal)
Galen (Flying)
Voren &2(Flying)
Ohrno (Flying)
Lyvorn (Normal)
Crustosus (Bug/Fire)
Nesopath (Bug/Fire)
Great Hornbug (Bug)
CNT (Steel/Bug)
ACNA (Bug/Steel)
Dormin (Water/Fire)
Bosne (Rock/Fire)
Saven (Rock/Fire)
Skarret (Water/Bug)
Spendos (Water)
Ponthoa (Water)
Kzahl (Water)
Alpha Gonluth (Water)
Aqurius (Water)
Young Nadoron
Nadoron
Kelbet
Ne'Gihl (Steel)
Daran
Barango
Dornet (water/Bug)
Arthakk (Ground/Bug)
Daenea (Flying)
Phantokk
Grian
Girnha
Nihol

I went 15 pages into Aeg's spore creatures. I'd love it if everyone could try and show there.

Also should I include the Tikians and the Tik-Tiks? They did exist briefly...


Anyway that took way too long to make...

Also I need to remember the name of the Notix creature which was a shapeless slime cattle. Also we always had experiments so we could have a (Wyvern name)-Notix .

Oh and we don't have to use all of these, in fact we need room for every empires wildlife.

[Aegonian]

Nice list! Let's see if I can add some types to the others.

Aegi (Grass/Fighting)

Dremeton (Water)
Drometodont (Water/Flying)

Hymid (Water)

Baby Farythian (Dragon)
Faryth (Dragon)
Farythian (Dragon)
Gravoron (Fire/Dragon)
Rygantor (Ground/Dragon)
Bahamur (Ground/Dragon)
Strooboo (Normal)
Roarbirds (Flying)
Trangii (Normal)
Borbon (Normal)
Galen (Flying)
Voren (Flying)
Ohrno (Flying)
Lyvorn (Normal)
Crustosus (Bug/Fire)
Nesopath (Bug/Fire)
Great Hornbug (Bug)
CNT (Steel/Bug)
ACNA (Bug/Steel)
Dormin (Water/Fire)
Bosne (Rock/Fire)
Saven (Rock/Fire)
Skarret (Water/Bug)
Spendos (Water)
Ponthoa (Water)
Kzahl (Water)
Alpha Gonluth (Water)
Aqurius (Water)
Young Nadoron (Normal)
Nadoron (Normal)
Kelbet (Normal/Grass)
Ne'Gihl (Steel)
Daran (Ground/Fighting)
Barango (Normal)
Dornet (water/Bug)
Arthakk (Ground/Bug)
Daenea (Flying)
Phantokk (Ground)
Grian (Ground)
Girnha (Normal)
Nihol (Normal)

[JorgasElite]

I won't put a ton of things here, but here you go:

Jorgasian (Normal)
T.A. Marine (Normal/Ranged)
T.A. Marauder (Normal/Explosives)
T.A. Sniper (Ranged/Sharpshooter)
T.A. Spec. Ops (Flying/Electricity)

Dhag (Normal)
Dhag Soldier (Normal/Electricity)
Dhag Crack Troops (Fast/Electricity)

Darkness Larvae (Normal/ Dark)
Darkness Roach (Dark/ Fighting)
Darkness Queen (Flying/Dark)

Athanan Spider (Ground/Massive)
Athanan Mudskipper (Water)
Jorgasian Scientists (Ground/Grass)
Graan (Normal)
Ulan Bird (Flying)
Athanan Serpent (Water)
Creonikian (Grass)
Volung Beast (Flying/ Fire)

I don't know all the Pokemon categories so here you go.

[thunderpants]

Jorgas do you have pics? Would be easier to catergorise!

[JorgasElite]

Well, it's kind of hard for me to find specific things on the Spore page. And that I really can't make any good creations because my graphics card dosn't allow shiny paints.

A few of the things will be really easy to find. Like the Athanan Mudskipper.

[kingnecromancer]

Erixians could be like Evee? holding an item/being in a certain zone changes their type and appearance?

[Sataz]

That would be arceus Eevee changes form once you use a certain evolving stone on them, the effect is then irreversible. Arceus/Giratina when holding a certain item change their apperance

[thunderpants]

After going on hols for 2 weeks, I've come up with the idea.


Why not try a PKMN Mystery Dungeons mod instead? The combat would work better...

[Lunark]

That sounds awesome! Areas would also be randomly generated!
Also welcome back!

[kingnecromancer]

I loved mystery dungeons! Although, how exactly will playing this work? emulator? what?

[thunderpants]

Yeah that is presuming the modding tools are there.

And yes an emulator.

[Aegonian]

Mystery Dungeon's combat would indeed make the game a lot better, but is it just as easily modded as the 'standard' Pokemon games?

[thunderpants]

I will do some research but hopefully yes it is as moddable

[thunderpants]

Bumping here, but I found some tools...
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=134346

Looks to be a good go ahead should we work on a plot?

I would like to suggest, the following

Starting quiz results in one of our key races.
Some can evolve.
Use different races for each shop.

How about for the plot go from the start of the Alliance, and document all the major events and introductions of major races (especially those still around.)

[Aegonian]

That plot idea sounds good! Although, if we want to use all of our current species, we might have to start quite some time after the founding of the Alliance (which happened when the Elithian Code was signed by the Aegi and Dremeton): it took thousands of years for the first non-Elithian species to join the Alliance (the first members from another planet were the Hymids, I think).

Found any other modding tools so far? The most important thing we need is something that can change the appearance of the Pokemon.

[thunderpants]

I've found one tool to change the starting pokemon. I will keep looking.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=134346
Custom moves may be difficult.

EDIT: Oh wait he never released the program, and quit making it.
And I can't find any other tools. :S


I hate to say it, but maybe an Elithian Game via a Pokemon ROM hack may be, well bad. Our creatures aren't elemental enough.

[kingnecromancer]

I was thinking, (Actually, reading the latest issue of pcgamer) why don't we use one of the free programs available for making our game? There are a lot of good ones out there.

[Aegonian]

Unity is a great free 3D engine. It's what I'm using for the game I'm developing at school.

[thunderpants]

I'd love to help (I want to learn Unity or Unreal)


I also come unstuck at 3d models...

[Aegonian]

I'm already building a couple of personal prototypes in Unity. I have a very basic first person prototype game, a third person one (this one's hard though), and a 3D-aircraft game prototype, which is coming along pretty well for a designer with hardly any programming experience.

Maybe we can do a spacecraft game, kind off like the space battles of the Star Wars Battlefront games?

[thunderpants]

Maybe we can do a spacecraft game, kind off like the space battles of the Star Wars Battlefront games?

Yes, Yes, a million times Yes!

One question (to ensure we have complete integration) which programming language are you using in Unity?

[Aegonian]

I'm using Java for scripting, it's the only language I have some experience with.

I made a top-down aircraft game on LBP2 called SkyFire, and built a prototype of a 3D-version of it in Unity. I might be able to tweak it a bit to build the first THEA Game prototype.

[thunderpants]

Java you say?

Looks like I better get my "Java for Dummies" Book out again...

Just for the sake of planning (Well that and it may take a while) could we create a list of all the fighters/Bombers/Small Spacecraft from The old RP which we could use, (Or at least base some ships off)

I remember:
Snowflake which was a Notix fighter and very Fast, but with little to no Shielding. (I think I described it like a muscle car? Although I would like to see it's design re-done to something similar to a previous fighter design. Link to It )
Unnammed, Unseen Trink Fighter (Which I would posthumously name the T*42)
A Hea-Hoan Ship with Passive Cloaking
And an Aeroix Fighter which we all contributed to.
I do remember every empire having distinctive ships but well, I can't remember the specifics.

[Aegonian]

I've designed lots of Aeginian ships, some of which were created in Spore, but I also have a couple of drawings in my sketchbook. They include fighters (example), shuttles (example), carriers (example) and more. Carriers could be mayor opponents/allies, for example.
I also have Thelean ship designs, Hymidian ships, a couple of Cratonian designs (orbital cannons, which are capable of spaceflight and warfare), and even a couple of Centensian designs.

Has the Aeroix Fighter ever been created in Spore, actually?

I also have lots of designs for other spacecraft and stations, such as jumpgates, ICs, standard stations and many more, but they are all of Aeginian design.


What do you use for modelling, if you do any? I'm currently using Blender, but will try to learn some Maya soon. For textures I'm currently using Paint.NET, but I also have Photoshop (though I've never actually used it).

[thunderpants]

What do you use for modelling, if you do any? I'm currently using Blender, but will try to learn some Maya soon. For textures I'm currently using Paint.NET, but I also have Photoshop (though I've never actually used it).

Yeah you know I said I get unstuck at Modelling...

I haven't actually successfully used a 3d model before. I'm a bit more 2d/sprites...

I will/would be using Blender though, and probably Paint.NET. Depending on if we want to/if I can persuade him, I could get a rather great graphic artist I know to help out. (He loved Battlefront games, especially the space bits) He even does a BIT of 3D.

It's funny I know multiple aspiring Musicians, Graphic Artists, Programmers and even a Server Admin. I seemed to have a toolbox of friends.

Has the Aeroix Fighter ever been created in Spore, actually?

I'm not sure anyone ever did. I kinda hate a lot of the stuff I made in Spore. It was all too, cartoony. I could do some mockups of my new designs, although that will be in google sketchup! (Very Angular Designs).

Perhaps we should consider giving each faction say 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 fighter/bomber and 2 bombers/specialists.

So for Notix that would be

Carrier: Iceberg
Fighter 1: Snowflake
Fighter 2: Aeroix Fighter
Fighter Bomber: T*SF-42 (Trink Modified Snowflake hull)
Bomber 1: Snowball (Bulkier Snowflake)
Bomber 2: T*SB-87 (Trink Modified Snowball hull)

That is if we do every race. I'm just speculating.

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